It’s important that we as clear thinking men, not reach for illogical solutions based on false beliefs when faced with complex problems. An example of a very complex problem is Misandry, a nonsensical solution to this problem is being advocated by a particularly individualistic type of man who is increasingly commenting on MGTOW videos, and that solution is complete civilisational collapse brought on by an armed conflict (also known as a hard collapse) or hyperinflation (also known as a soft collapse). My goal in this article is to present you with an accurate reflection of what happens to the vast majority of men during times of extreme societal upheaval leading to a breakdown in government and norms of behaviour. I will do this by first discussing the treatment of non-combatant men within armed conflicts and the subsequent aid & rescue operations and secondly by presenting the realities of a financial collapse with both historical and recent examples.
Men, increasingly frustrated with runaway Hypergamy and Misandry are incorrectly assuming that the basic evolutionary survival pressures that necessitate Gynocentrism magically disappear when AK47’s and RPG’s are pulled out, this has recently lead to an increase in the post apocalyptic survivalist rhetoric on MGTOW YouTube comment threads. A little knowledge of recent history would suggest that this kind of braggadocio is better saved for Mad Max movie marathons with the buddies.
In the highly unfortunate situation that you are faced with some sort of global, regional, national or local lethal mass conflict, the very same aid agencies such as FEMA funded by your tax monies will ignore the gender neutral language of their founding charters and apply a cold triage system to the situation at hand, this triage will ultimately leave the majority of men either to fend for themselves, thereby resulting in death due to dehydration, starvation, disease or murder.
Real life evidence of this can be seen in the Balkans conflict that took place in the early to mid 1990’s, an article by R. Charli Carpenter in the Journal ‘International Organization’ explains the circumstances faced by men in this conflict, Charlie wrote, “Of all non-combatants in the former Yugoslavia, adult civilian men were most likely to be massacred by enemy forces. Why, therefore, did international agencies mandated with the “protection of civilians” evacuate women and children, but not military-age men, from besieged areas?
That is indeed an excellent question. Charlie’s article reviewed the operational dilemmas faced by protection workers in the former Yugoslavia when negotiating access to civilian populations. Charlie did well to point out that Firstly, “gender beliefs constitute the strategies on which civilian protection is based” and secondly, “gender norms operate in practice to constrain the options available to protection workers in assisting civilians”. Charlie concluded that “these two causal pathways converged in the former Yugoslavia to produce effects disastrous to adult men and male adolescents.”
Should your country descend into a full scale war, the head of the local Red Cross will absolutely switch to the default position of the human species, and that default is ‘lets make sure the women and children are safe’, a quick look around the disaster planning briefing room will find no dissenting voices to this suggestion that they only rescue women and children, after all, who except a monster would want woman and children to be harmed in war?
Another important consideration that we ought to be mindful of is the fact that as the author explained in the paper “gender norms operate in practice to constrain the options available to protection workers in assisting civilians”, I would go further and suggest that these same gender norms mean that even though shit is clearly hitting the fan and your nation’s enemies may be engaging in the worst sort of atrocities such as ethnic cleaning, men and boys will still be expected to ‘man-up’, this means fending for themselves, if you are a ‘real man’, you will be expected to just deal with it and find a way out after the last rescue helicopters have airlifted the women and girls to safety. In normal civilised life, the end result of this ‘man-up’ attitude is reduced access to homeless shelters, less taxpayer funded financial support for men, fewer domestic violence shelters, however in a war zone this the end result will be a callous zero sum scenario, one in which men will be systematically excluded from the relatively safety of guarded refugee camps, evacuation efforts and food distribution.
Charlie went on to explain that “Of all war-affected non-combatants worldwide, those most at risk of summary execution are adult civilian males.” The propensity of belligerents to single out adult men for massacre has now been documented in dozens of ongoing conflicts. More often than women, children, or the elderly, military-age men are assumed to be “potential”combatants and are therefore treated by armed forces as if they are in fact legitimate targets.” In some sort of hard collapse, rival armies or local militia will not quietly leave you alone to Go Your Own Way, you see, you may have mastered your biological propensities as a MGTOW, but the rest of the planet has not, men will likely be systematically hunted down and summarily executed, due to the assumption of all men being “potential” combatants. The very same Gynocentrism that drove the passage of ‘yes means yes’ laws, in times of peace will become a lethal force to men in times of strife. International agencies mandated with the protection of war-affected civilians generally aim to provide protection in a neutral manner, but in practice they prioritize the protection of the “especially vulnerable.” according to the Charlie, the “especially vulnerable” is interchangeable women and children.
If adult men are most likely to lose their lives directly as a result of the fall of a besieged town, one would expect that, given these standards, rescue agencies would emphasize protection of civilian men in areas under siege by armed forces. In reality, in places where civilians have been evacuated from besieged areas in an effort to save lives, it is typically women, children, and the elderly who have composed the evacuee populations. During the wars of secession in the former Yugoslavia. Of the 18,000 missing persons after the wars, the International Committee of the Red Cross estimated that 92 percent were men and only 8 percent women. Although many men died as soldiers, reluctant conscripts, or in detention and forced labor camps, others were the victim of highly discriminate massacres in which military-age male civilians were separated from women, children, and the elderly and executed while the latter were permitted to flee.’ This pattern was established early in the war within towns that had fallen to the Bosnian Serb Army. When the debate over whether to evacuate began, senior protection officers at the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) insisted that only persons facing “an acute,life threatening situation” should be evacuated. ”Our responsibility, as we see it, is to alleviate the suffering of vulnerable groups,”read a UNHCR field report in December 1993. Yet when humanitarian agencies later began to evacuate “vulnerable” civilians en masse from war zones, the evacuees were nearly always women, children, and the elderly. Able-bodied “military-age” male civilians (precisely those civilians most likely to be killed or detained on suspicion of engaging in hostilities) were almost never given safe passage along with their families.
Its here that I would argue that the reason a societal collapse is so particularly dangerous for men, especially adolescent or adult men is that within the global tribe of humans, men are the last group to have empathy extended to them, empathy is currently extended to everyone and everything it seems, except men. Our biological drivers mean that empathy has been extended to women, children. Even animals that through domestication have acquired neotenous features such as cats and dogs are now included in our ever widening empathy circles. As a species we are concerned about the plight of the environment, art, concrete bridges and vegetative fauna and that is a large part of the reason that in a societal collapse peace keepers will work hard to protect precious works of art from being looted in museums but will do little to airlift men to safety. The unflinching hand of biology is actually somewhat benign within a civilised life, during a societal collapse with no governmental process to arbitrate on matters of violent coercion, the possibility of being fined for ‘man spreading’ on the subway will be the least of a mans concerns.
If there is a societal collapse, a single adult male roaming around the country side in search of food is likely to quickly find himself summarily executed as a potential source of violence and disruption to social cohesion by whatever group faction claims ownership over that region, women and children are more likely to be welcomed into the community and cared for, especially youthful and attractive women. Conflicts actually serve to magnify existing human tendencies, especially Gynocentrism.
This tendency is well illustrated by Canada’s decision recently to exclude single male refugees from Syria. In the modern imagination, the image of a doting father is much easier to swallow than one of a disaffected 23 year old man. Even though the Canadian government is aware of the fact that sending these young men back to what is an active war zone will mean many will face death sentences as traitors, or simply be terminated in the now routine bombings and sectarian violence. The fact that Canada was able to do this with relatively little international backlash shows to what extent a man can expect to rely on the charity and good graces of others when things fall apart. Who here believes that the Canadian government would have been able to get away with excluding unmarried women from its borders?
Another theme I have encountered recently is the laughable attempt to suggest that a tangible difference exists for men in a hard vs soft collapse, this usually goes along the lines of ‘in a hard collapse, we are all fucked’ but ‘in a soft collapse possibly driven by a financial collapse then men may have an easier time as there will still be a somewhat functioning government therefore anarchy may not prevail’, on the surface this seem plausible and I too found this to be a very alluring position, until I researched recent examples of so called ‘soft collapses’,
Soft collapse enthusiasts are making a false distinction. Here we gain a tremendous deal of insight by analysing human beings within of the context of survival pressures. In Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, your basic needs of food and shelter form the base of the pyramid for a reason, they are essential and without these needs first being met, your other needs are largely irrelevant. What will it matter to you that a woman is submissive and virginal if you haven’t eaten for a week, at that point you won’t have a sex drive? You biological driven drive to stay alive really does not distinguish between the cause of your gnawing hunger. It does not care if your involuntary fasting is due socialist militants who have blockaded the city or because your very own democratically elected government encouraged the central bank to print currency to the point of hyperinflation! Just as importantly your neighbour does not really care about the source of his hunger and malnutrition, only that he is in need of food and you potentially have resources which may keep he and his family alive. The end result of a soft collapse will be violence, just like in a hard collapse, and based on what we know about the human ape, this will tend to be violence towards men.
Within Anthony McElligott’s book ”Rethinking the Weimar Republic: Authority and Authoritarianism, 1916-1936” Anthony addressed key features of the hyperinflation during the Weimar Republic, with regards to the skyrocketing levels of theft and larceny the author wrote that, “Difficult conditions of the previous war and economic insecurity drove otherwise law abiding citizens to resort to other means of making ends meet. At the height of the inflation, for example the incidence of prosecutions for theft rose by a factor of 363 above the pre-war level”.
Rather than relying solely on European history to make these points lets look to another part of the world. At this very moment in Venezuela sporadic looting of grocery stores and supermarkets is taking place as Hyperinflation takes hold, murder rates have skyrocket to the point where they are now the second highest in the world. Providing a clear path that shows that when enough time passes any ‘soft’ financially induced collapse quickly becomes a ‘hard collapse’ where violence is the norm, this video of Venezuela published on the Sep 2, 2015 gives a very good visual idea of a so called ‘soft collapse’
How does this scene differ from a “hard collapse”?
Although many MGTOW have libertarian and individualistic leanings, MGTOW are very much a byproduct of an advanced industrial civilisation and the collectivism this spawns, in fact there is a gathering body of evidence to suggest that as society mechanises both genders tend to go their separate ways, men adopt individualistic behaviours specific to their environment and so do women, in our current environment that would seem to be MGTOW and feminism respectively. The reason you are able to go ‘ghost’ is because of civilisation. ‘Ghosting’ in the absence of civilisation will descend into nothing more that waiting to die of communicable diseases, starvation or violence at the hands of a stranger in some backwater wilderness. Some men have stated that in the event of a collapse, they will operate farms and grow their own food, I had a recent discussion with Colttaine where he brought up an important important fact which these ultra individualist men ought to consider, that in a scenario where for example, you run an aquaponics operation at home, you may certainly be well fed, for a while, however the day something goes wrong with your aquaponics system, you will face a quick death without a supermarket to obtain groceries from or without an aquaponics manufacture to Fed Ex spare parts to you.
So while I am not in any way suggesting that MGTOW should or even can help avert a collapse of any sort, ‘soft’ or ‘hard’, let us not labour under the false belief that such a nightmare scenario holds the keys to the salvation of men. The period of interregnum between the collapse and the formation of a new governmental system will cause an incalculable amount of suffering to the most venerable group in human history, namely males!
by CS MGTOW
‘Women and Children First’: Gender, Norms, and Humanitarian Evacuation in the Balkans 1991-95 by RC Carpenter
Rethinking the Weimar Republic: Authority and Authoritarianism, 1916-1936 by Anthony McElligott
Death in Venezuela looting amid food shortages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkVUrC7iPQE&feature=youtu.be