Disclaimer: First please welcome budding hopeful to shedding of the ego. The following post is a controversial one, and one that can be perceived as sounding exclusionary to other men, I do not agree with everything in the post, but I am convinced that it raises some very important points, and thus I have decided to post it, since I wish to cultivate an environment where as much free speech as possible is shared here. I will likely respond to this article myself and state exactly where I agree/disagree at some point, but for now here it is
This is an article discussing the future prospects of MGTOW and its vulnerability to external events and global trends, specifically, influxes of developing world immigration. This is a piece written with the purpose of stimulating discussion and drawing attention to subjects that I believe need to be thought through by the community in general. It is not an opinion piece nor and advocacy piece for a specific political view, but a ‘putting it out there’ article written with the intention of putting MGTOW within the perspective of its environment. It is not an anti or pro immigration piece, it is meant to explore implications of large migrations of people between countries and the effects that such migrations could potentially have on MGTOW, using what we have learned about ourselves as men from MGTOW itself.
One pronounced tenancy among political groupings built around sectional interests be they race, gender sexuality etc. is the assumption of a kind of automatic universalism regarding that group’s ‘interests’, desires and motivations. It is especially important to avoid this tendency when discussing men, since competition and a drive towards one-upmanship is, for good or bad, a fundamental aspect of male on male interaction.
For MGTOW, this is a problem. We live in a global, high speed and increasingly hyper competative global economy where capital and labour is increasingly mobile. Global disparities in wealth are driving increasing numbers of immigrants (generally men) from poor nations into the borders of the affluent, the Caliais migrant crisis being a prominent recent example.
Being a citizen of a state with high levels of political and economic advantage affords certain luxuries; free time, literacy, technology, high safety, relative health and personal freedom. It is these things that allow MGTOW, like Feminism, to exist in the way that it does today; hence its preponderance in the most advanced industrial societies and its relative absence elsewhere.
In developing countries, infant stage Feminism can be cradled on a mattress of traditionalist gynocentrism, we in MGTOW have no such advantage. The reaction to a home-grown MGTOW in a poor developing world neighbourhood would be savage, and understandably so since basic group survival is at stake with the so-called ‘straight and narrow’ being almost laser like.
Importantly, when we look at people living in poorer countries, we are in a way looking back in time to what life in the now mechanised world used to be. This means that the situation of men in these countries today is much more closely aligned to what the situation of men in the developed world would have been a few hundred years ago (though most men in the latter are still following that well trodden path). That is, being workhorses, supporters of families and protector-providers caught in constant millennia scale cycle of competition with other men who would be prepared to undermine us, hurt us and even kill us in order to gain status in male dominance hierarchies, and with it, access to females.
Now, its bad enough that men in the developed world are still so enthralled to these ‘nether-ape’ instincts, but think what behaviour their counterparts in the developing world will exhibit. They have the most basic necessities of life to compete for: food, shelter, the mere fact of having a job let alone a high paying one, etc. Imagine the problems inherent when two ‘nether-ape’ mindsets clash in competition over resources, with one being far more potent than the other due to the more urgent survival concerns inherent in a lower standard of living. This is aside from the innate sexual animus that males indigenous to a country often have towards immigrant males for the crime of stealing ‘their’ women. The result of all of this could well be extremely unpleasant, especially for MGTOW.
From our perspective, what large amounts of such immigration does is import a fresh supply of disposable males, in an unquestioning traditionalist or quasi-traditionalist role, into a feminist society where the formal power and respect that men once had under the traditional system is gone.
In other words, it creates the perfect male servitude, without the risk of uppity western males rocking the boat with silly ideas about going their own way, since such males have suddenly lost economic and social value, which was always tied to their utility and willingness to be disposable.
Since MGTOW is a mechanized world phenomenon (specifically in the Anglosphere), what will be the result of such large amounts of immigration? Could it increase MGTOW’s ranks due to the influx of new immigrant men who, upon being in the developed world for years, will be force-fed the Red Pill?
Or will current MGTOWs lose out due to the loss of their livelihoods to more willingly disposable poorer men who are simply grateful for their rise in living standards and will put up and shut up. What consequences could this have? After all, no job means no internet and other luxuries and, possibly, no MGTOW in its substantive form.
A major problem is that Feminism is a pre-condition for MGTOW as a significant phenomenon, but mechanization, industrialisation and First World living standards are pre-conditions for Feminism. Therefore it seems logical that we cannot really appeal and spread to the developing world since everyone, by necessity, is myopically focused on simply getting by with little time for self-examination; this is, by default, traditionalist gynocentrism. This means that MGTOW would find itself undermined by the competitive pressures of the global economy unless modern economic development became truly global with a massive rise in living standards in the developing world. But our natural environment would not support the entire world living like we do, we’re already receiving somewhat of a free ride now, never mind what could happen in the future. The more we look into this, the trickier the situation becomes, I believe, and leads to an uncomfortable conclusion.
Namely that by understanding and, in a sense, rejecting our disposability as males we do in fact enhance it; after all who needs a disobedient servant? A man who is more disposable than another is, in certain competitive circumstances, less disposable to the one who would benefit from his disposability. This may not be a flattering competition to win, but when the prize is your basic livelihood reflections such as ours are a luxury. What if some of the major MGTOW content producers were made homeless, or their content suffered due to the psychological effects of increased job insecurity and working hours?
There is a real need to think about this and its implications because they are very real. Digesting the Red Pill and still continuing to live and take part in society requires a certain amount of ‘ghosting’, yet, the rug can be pulled out from under our feet very easily regardless of our involvement with MGTOW; doxxing is just one of our worries.
Whether there are any real ‘solutions’ to speak of is pretty irrelevant, considering that MGTOW is a tiny minority even in the areas where it is most prominent. But there is something that can be explored. Stardusk once made a video concerning the stultifying and time wasting effect of the ‘rinse and repeat’ work day cycle, stating that ‘I was fucking out, and you should want out too’. Perhaps a major thrust of MGTOW, along with the focus on intellectual understanding, should be that; getting out. Not simply taking a social/cultural Red Pill, but seeking an economic one as well.
Male autonomy and intellectual discovery can usually only be predicated upon a foundation of relative financial independence, and how can MGTOW progress if its main backbone is hampered in such a way? There is a need to invest our energy in securing ourselves from external shocks and this has been done with such things as Barbarossa’s website, but important also is attempting to safeguard our economic, cultural and social fortune that allows us to be MGTOW in the first place.