The Curious Case of Honora Bowen and Matt on Naked and Afraid

Honora Bowen
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  1. CS MGTOW says:

    Hey Bar, nice article, I found it pretty shocking that he meekly gave up half of his stuff the moment she wanted out, she simply asked and received, there was minimal push back on his part. It’s pretty sad that we don’t even fight for what’s ours as men. I’m not pointing the finger here, I used to do the same, there is something latent and deep within the male psyche that seems to simply agree to give women whatever they want, the moment they demand it.

    1. MGTOW MO says:

      Its the same in divorce when the woman asks for half and gets. No one actually gets a calculator and calculates how much the man has and how much of it the woman contributed. If they did that they would find the typical stay at home wife financially speaking contributes ZERO and actually takes quite a big chunk out.

      Defenders respond ‘but what about all those years she cooked and cleaned?’ which can easily be rebuked by mentioning she lived in the house rent free.

      Its the same principle at work when women demand of corporate boards be made up of women ignoring that those billion dollar companies are billion dollar companies in the first place due to mens intelligence and hard work.

      1. Boola says:

        The man wouldn’t have been able to dedicate nearly as much time to his career if he had to come home and now do all the things his wife had been taking care of. I’m not saying that some waitress with $10/hr earning potential should get a multi-million dollar alimony agreement because she married a guy for 2 years, but that work does help increase the working party’s earnings.

        Besides, everyone knows at this point what happens when you get married (or even when you decide to simply shack up in some jurisdictions) and the marriage falls apart so it’s shouldn’t be a surprise for anyone when it happens.

    2. Michelle says:

      I’m guessing you’re single? There’s a reason you know. You can’t attract a good girlfreind if you dislike woman or resent them and put your personal bad experience or skewed perceptions on all woman out there…….too funny. Shame.

      1. Liz says:

        Spot on! And what is frustrating is, the writer would prefer to be blinded by a highly edited and produced PROGRAM and believe everything he sees on TV, than to stop and think for a moment that maybe it didn’t go down like this.

        1. Richy mgtow says:

          Many mgtow have no problem finding women, including Barbarossa

        2. Boola says:

          Come on, do you really think that if it weren’t for their clever editing, we’d be.. what… seeing how it’s really the women doing all the work while it’s the men getting all emotional and forcing the women to suffer because of it?

          Who has been cleverly editing real life because this dynamic is hardly surprising to anyone who’s been in or seen a few heterosexual relationships.

      2. Bong says:

        I found this website while searching for things about Honora being a horrible person. What I found though was a disgusting misogynistic article. Honora’s edit made her horrible and she may or may not be as horrible in real life but to generalize all women as entitled? I’m a man who was raised by my mother and grandmother who never rode coattails of other men.

  2. A magnifying glass? You gotta be kidding me! Not even a magnesium flintstone or rope? Bwahaha.

    I have never, ever, EVER seen a survivalist, outdoor activist, etc bring a magnifying glass, especially if it’s the only 1 item you’re allowed to take. Any type of blade (full tang knives, machetes, axes) is in top 5 items, if not 1st item you pack in. You conserve calories and body water, find a shelter from elements and make a fire. Those are the rules. Even food is secondary to water and conserving calories. I’m 20 mins in the video, and she has no clue about what she’s doing. “Intelligence and higher PSR” my ass.

    1. aristein88 says:

      “Honora’s extremely high intelligence and take charge attitude give her a high PSR of 7.6” …..extreme intelligence?! THE BITCH BROUGHT A FREAKING MAGNIFYING GLASS!!!!

      1. Anonymous says:

        The lens would be an efficient fire-starter, especially in that setting. Also, she chose it to honor her (recently deceased) father.

        1. barbarossaa says:

          Efficient firestarter? Not really. Sure it can aid in starting one but starting a fire with a magnifying glass isnt as easy at it sounds. A fresnel lens perhaps, but not a magnifying glass.

      2. Anonymous says:

        Honora is a cunt and should have never been out there. I can’t believe the drama and bullshit she delivered on the show. Is she really that cunty or is there a possible angle to here twisted, evil plot.

      3. Anonymous says:

        “Honora” is a old term that loosely translates CUNT.

        1. So and So says:

          “Anonymous” is an old term that directly translates as TINY DICKED COWARD

      4. Todddd says:

        Extremely intelligent? No she is bat shit crazy.

  3. Golden Eagle-owl says:

    I would be very interested to see how it would work out with two women on the show.

      1. Vlerk says:

        I was just about to post that link as well.
        I’m Dutch and saw that show unfold.

    1. Radu M says:

      They would both quit at the same time 😀 not after stubbornly hanging out for a while to say “at least I tryed ” 😀

      1. Noone says:

        You can’t even spell tryed… lol. Gtfo.

  4. MgToW says:

    Yes, men bending over and putting up with women’s demands is unfortunately the norm. Even in cases like these, the woman got the man to VOLUNTEER half his stuff to her and they aren’t even married, much less sleeping together!

    It is truly astounding to watch and yes, full disclosure, I’ve been guilty of giving in to female privilege myself too.

    As a MGTOW, I (we) can’t change how society works, we can’t force other men to treat women with true equality but we can at least make damn sure that WE won’t behave this way. Maybe there will be an awakening and more men will demand women contribute or get lost, maybe not but we can at least make sure that WE won’t be the one’s cutting our own hard work in half to give it to a random, vindictive, spiteful cunt!

    1. Michelle says:

      Seriously? Using the C word? Gross. It honestly says a lot about you as a person and any other man on here using that word…really it says it all.
      I have seen men on this show treat their female partners terribly and also quit while their female partner completed the rest of the 21 day challenge on her own but you don’t see me going on a feminist rant calling all men disgusting names and spewing hate to all men in general. Honestly you guys on here have some serious issues. Yes she was a nasty piece of work but she is 1 human being not an example of all woman – I have seen and experienced physical and mental abuse from a man and been through a divorce where he took everything even my and our child’s clothes-i was entitled to a lot but I walked away. But I haven’t painted all men with the same brush. Seriously getbsome help-so glad I landed up with my gorgeous hubby and not one of you sad bitter losers. That’s why you’re divorced or single – u don’t become bitter or ugly because of someone else or what they “did” to you – you already had it in you. Sad.

      1. Dave says:

        Women use the word cunt all the time.

        You completely ignore his post about men treating women equally, and ending their privilege, and you just hyper focus on a word.

        What makes women so extra human, that using a a slang term for their sexual organ is such a sin? You do not hyper focus on jump on people who use the word dick as a insult.
        You just want to police, gaslight and socially bully men.

        Your a cunt in other words.

        1. Alisha Z says:

          “You are” is abbreviated “you’re ” not your. Maybe its cunty of me but I think people who can’t use proper English to communicate their point should make points.
          I think Honora was a total piece of shit. She was whiny little bitch and I cannot believe that she brought a freaking magnifying glass, spent hours in the sun like a dumb bitch and was so disrespectful when Matt did most of the work.
          The article however is also written by a piece of shit and agreed to by other pieces of shit so I have some questions. Did none of you had good mothers that made you see the value of their selfless love and honest affection? Were they all cunts? Is that why you are the way you are? Was it that you chose bitches that weren’t loyal? Did any of you ever think about your wonderful personalities playing a part in your divorces or break ups from those cunts?
          Dont bother answering, they are rhetorical questions. I know I sound like an asshole but you should know you all sound like cunts and whiny little bitches. Here is the reality.
          Women like me today do a lot more than stay home and raise kids. I make as much as my husband and have made more than in for years in the past but we share the financial part of living situation together. But I also do a lot more than him at home and when it comes to the education of our kids. Those things are not his forte. He is a good man and I have accepted his shortfalls as he has accepted mine. If you think you have met some cunts in your life, trust me, many women have met dicks in theirs. So stfu and spend some time in making yourself a caring and loving partner instead of blaming others. Stop being a whiny little bitch!

      2. Boola says:

        Cunt is a slang word for vagina. It’s basically equivalent to “dick” or any other slang word for penis except for the fact that men don’t get to shriek in horror and act like we’ve been victimized whenever someone says it to us. You’re really just proving his point here in that you’re expecting special treatment simply because you’re a woman, but this behavior is so ingrained in you socially that you don’t even realize it.

        Anyway, how come you fat and ugly women always assume that any man who says something you don’t like is sad, bitter, ugly or lonely? It’s so predictable. The only thing more predictable is that you will almost certainly turn out to be bitter, fat and ugly yourself.

        1. Dooommmm says:

          Well to be honest most of the time when people use the word C U N T I’ve always had it explained to me *by other females mind you so it could be wrong* as a dirty vagina and a nasty woman. Which in reality she was during these episodes. Entirely a cunt and this is coming from a woman. I’m sorry if it offends you, but she behaved atrociously.

          Does this mean we should take this as a start up to a conversation about how women take and take then do nothing in return in general?? No I don’t, because I dont care if you are a woman or a man. PEOPLE in general can be shitty flesh suits with dangly bits or a hole. Its stupid to assume that the problem is with one gender. Both can be shitty. I choose to judge an individual on an individual basis.

          The way Honora said “we are biologically pre-disposed to HATE eachother” just urked me. I cant stand her attitude. She made a stupid choice on her survival item. She should not have been on the show. He should have manned up and said ABSOLUTELY NOT I MADE THIS YOU ARE NOT TAKING SHIT, he didn’t and let her bitchy ass walk all over him. They both done fucked up to put it simply. She should’ve never been there in the first place. I have respect for him not firing back with spiteful shit when she totally ripped into him, but he was a little to passive when it came to her outburst and taking all the shit he worked on. I dont believe this was all editing, because it didn’t take her long AT ALL to become mega bitch.

          Anyways I’m late to this conversation by quite awhile, I only found it when I started catching up on Naked and Afraid and got to the Cuntora episode and looked up to see if anyone else felt as I did. Yea the article was quite focused on side tracking into woman hate when it started as an article about N&A but oh well cant control how this poster feels. I do feel like I should be able to comment though what I think which is People can be shitty male or female.

      3. Joe says:

        It’s been 2 years since you wrote that comment but I think you still deserve this reply.

        Go fuck yourself, cunt.

  5. anotherbastard says:

    I went out and found the episode here. It’s fucking hilarious.
    Matt gave up materials and lent her the machete because she wasn’t doing too hot. Actually, she was doing way, WAY too hot. She was like passing out exhausted everywhere and crying herself to sleep. lmfao and every time she saw Matt he was just chilling, buttsitting or relaxing.
    Episode link:

    1. Woman says:

      What if a camera crew followed you around for one year, catching all your proud moments and the moments you would be mortified if anyone saw.. and then they edited it heavily and only showed all of your lows and nothing more.. real shit show I’d say. Reality TV is anything but. I know you commented in 2015 so I’m hoping by 2017 you have come to realize this as I have.

  6. Sisyphus says:

    Bar bar just ethered the entire manosphere.

    And yes, I intentionally use that term. Bar bar, you have specifically used that term in past videos, and kind of included the likes of Stardusk, Spetnaz and yourself in that category. I urge you to not do this. I’m pretty sure that term originates from Forney’s old blog In Mala Fide.. The term largely refers to the Rooshes and Clareys of the world, which has almost nothing in common with MGTOW. “Manosphere” means the same as “neomasculinity” i.e “PUA + Tradcon”, mixed with making ad and Amazon revenue of pretending to be some kind of Cassanova. You are not like these people, don’t associate with them.

  7. Steve says:

    Women are coddled in this society, and held to a completely different standard. God forbid there should be any sort of accountability from females at all. The few men who speak up for actual results from women, say on the job, are labeled as misogynist women haters. Then EVERYONE, men and women, gather together against said man. Our society is extremely hypocritical. If we are all going to be equal, like society says, then let’s cut the bullshit and hold all members to the same standard. The drama also increases exponentially when women are around in any environment. I’ve worked in a predominantly female environment. What would women be doing if they weren’t complaining about something, or starting trouble? Reminds me of that bit from Chris Rock’s comedy “never scared.” “I’ve never met a happy woman in my life.” Check it out.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I was with you, that is, for awhile. In no way do I consider myself a man hating feminist, but I’d be a liar if I didn’t say that I found your closing statement offensive and some of your comments totally inaccurate. To be even more honest, I’m downright pissed off. Is that how you really view woman because if so, your judgement is either skewed, or, you’ve been hanging out with total witches. Just to make things clear, I’m in complete agreement with you concerning Honora. The woman was so rude and over the top in her way of thinking that I felt horrible for Matt. He seems like a stand-up guy who did nothing to deserve the cruel and childish comments this chick made. Frankly, I think she’s a few eggs short of a dozen and she had me so angry that now I’m resorting to stupid insults…my bad. Nonetheless, Honora is hardly a fair example of how other woman on the show behaved or of other women period. Having said that, for you to make the statement that women are all “incompetent, selfish takers” not only makes you wrong, it also tells me quite a bit about you. If that’s your honest opinion, maybe you’re just drawn to that type of person and your lack of good judgement has led you to.get burned…I’m guessing more than once. Seriously, you sound bitter. Anyone who’s in a happy relationship knows that success is about give and take, thoughtfulness, and, yes, competency. I don’t make “demands” in my relationship nor do I accept them. Why would I do that to my best friend and why would he ask that of me? My point is that maybe you guys that have such a negative view of the female mind should try sleeping with women you actually like. The way you describe the females you know, it sounds like you don’t think they’re very good people. If that’s the case but you continue to hang with them, that tells me you’re in relationships for the sex, even though you don’t like the women. In other words, you’re getting what you’ve settled for. You adjusted the bar height and got what you asked for, so don’t take it out on the rest of us. Just exactly how many episodes of this show have you seen? Perhaps you missed the one where the male in the show foolishly allowed himself to get sun burned to a crisp and the woman basically had to carry him through the entire 21 days. Not only was he useless, he was rude and condescending to his partner and whined constantly. She wasn’t the incompetent selfish one. Oh, and did you also neglect to view the episode where the man in this partnership decides to quit smoking on the 21 days his body will already be under duress. Naturally, he gets sick and taps out, leaving her to finish alone. I’ve seen all the episodes of this show, and quite frankly, in the majority of them, the women exhibit more strentth and knowledge then the men. So, until you can give the world a fact- based reason why you believe we’re all “incompetent selfish takers” I can only assume my above surmise is correct.

    1. MGTOWarrior says:

      Disagree, the women on this show are so pathetic and often have to rely on the man (just as it is in civilization) to do most of the work to get food, shelter, and protection. If it were me on the show, she’d have to give up something in order for me to keep her safe and well-fed. Let’s just say she’d be filled up and it wouldn’t be with mango either…

      A group of three guys get nearly killed going after an Electric Eel and literally as they are about to eat, 2 Beta Males and 3 Leeches (females) approach and take a good chunk of the feast without giving up anything.

      Things get tough for the little princesses and they quickly go to a man to get rescued…next water is wet.

      1. Anonymous says:

        MGTOWarrior, Then you should watch more of these shows. Granted, Honora was a disgrace to all women, but she’s clearly mentally unbalanced.

        On the other hand, even the show’s producers are wondering why the women consistently outperform the men. They attempt to draw upon equal levels of ability but have decided that men go out there with a hunting mentality. And being stripped of their weapons and tools, they tend to fail. Whereas, the women tend to go out with a “one with nature” mentality. They watch the environment and work with it.

        There have been episode after episode with women watching and waiting and then providing when the men have utterly failed. The men are using a single-minded approach and that doesn’t allow them to change as necessary to adapt.

        That’s not to say all of the men have been that way. There have been some tremendous male survivalists. It’s just to say that overall, the women outperform the men.

        Do a little more research and read the comments by the producers.

      2. Anonymous says:

        From an article:

        But the most glaring thing you’ll notice after watching a slew of Naked and Afraids? The women constantly outsmart, outlast, and outshine their male counterparts. “We have seen it and there was even a discussion among the production team to see if we were noticing it in casting or if it was just kind of happening on the show,” says Kristi Russell, a producer and casting director who has worked on Naked and Afraid since the very beginning, in 2013.

        “It was surprising to everybody involved that the steely determination of the women is just unparalleled. We certainly haven’t come up with the answers for it, but it is recognized that, overall, the women seem to be more badass than the men.” Russell assures that they cast equally–looking for men and women who are at the top of their survival game and coming from all different backgrounds. But oftentimes, men chosen for Naked and Afraid tend to be from hunting backgrounds, while women call themselves “survivalists,” “wilderness guides,” or “environmentalists,” always adding that they would rather “connect with nature” than fight against it.

        “It’s very different walking into the wilderness with a gun and bait and all these things we get used to, and developing this false sense of confidence,” says Laura Zerra, a 31-year-old from New Hampshire, who spent 21 days on a remote Panamanian island. “When you’re out there in the wild, you actually need to listen to the land. You need to become like one of the animals that you want to hunt. You have to take a step back and say, ‘I have to humble myself a little bit.'”

    2. Alan says:

      This entire review angered me along with the majority of the comments until I came across yours. Spot on.

      1. A says:

        I’m glad I’m not the only one… This article is filled with hate, and the anonymous commentator gave a logical, well thought out remark only for ‘MGTOWARRIOR’ to come in calling women leeches. It’s disgusting that someone would think of the opposite gender in such a terrible way. That kind of energy is being put out in the world, and MG clearly thinks it doesn’t go back to him at the end of the day. Harbouring that kind of hate only makes him a hateful person. I have seen many women take the slack for the lazy men on this show, and I have seen many men take the slack for lazy women on the show. To act like 51% of the human population is a leech is a disgustingly destructive attitude to possess. But, of course, there is no sense in arguing with the senseless or the stubbornly ignorant; they don’t want to challenge their bigoted, hateful opinions.

    3. AC says:

      Agreed. Very poorly written, ridiculously slanted article. I liked Matt and not Honora and disagreed with the latter’s methods and decisions. I even slightly agree that producers are purposely putting less-than-strong women on the show, barring Manu, but to apply your slanted view to the whole of society, women in particular??? —WAY off base and uncalled for, thereby making you no better, nay, WORSE than the show’s producer and cast choices. If I never read one of your articles again, it’ll be too soon. And barring 1 or two comments, the rest of you whiny, women-hating, unmanly men— get off the bandwagon and think for yourselves.

  9. Anonymous says:

    You know what MGT? If any of the so called “leeches” on the show had to choose between starvation or getting “filled up” by you, they’d be scratching out their last will and testament in the sand. Maybe if you got lucky, and that’s a big “maybe”, one of them would will you some booty post mortem. That’s the only way you or any guy who thinks like you will ever get any. Now that I’ve said that, I’m done with this site which I obviously made a wrong turn to end up in. All I wanted to do was discuss “Naked & Afraid” and somehow ended up with “Our Gang’s Spanky & Alfalfa” along with the rest of the “he-man woman-haters club”. Goodbye, little boys.

  10. Todddd says:

    Still trying to figure out wtf they brought her back for Naked and Afraid XL. Bitch is bat shit crazy… and I guess they brought her back for the ratings huh?

  11. Ian the Lover says:

    I just watched the episode online and although I love women and never had any problems in achieving romantic interest from attractive women there is no doubt that this is just another striking example on how women are takers and men are givers.

    I really have no problem at all with this fact as it is natural for the child-bearer to be the taker rather than any noteworthy provider. It is a hard world out there and those little delicate creatures should be protected from it.

    Two women on Naked and Afraid would be absolutely hilarious, as women always sooner or later end up fighting with each other. That is the reason why armies never have been made up by women; after about three days in the field all the jealousy and rumors would completely ruin the fighting morale to a breaking point.

    So don’t judge those women on Naked and Afraid too hard; they are meant to be incompetent takers and real men should adore them for that. Remember: there is no such thing as a strong, independent SANE woman…

    1. AC says:

      Ian…you’re better than your comment. History and society shows many capable women giving so much more. Yes, the choices the producers make on this show do not show the female gender in a positive way, but please don’t fall into this ridiculous writer”s unfairly slanted opinion about all women, or even women in general. The kindest thing I can say about the female cast choices is that the majority of them have GIVEN their male partners motivation and strength to continue. That is a form of giving something need- need is not just material. It is very very difficult to uplift someone(Honora NOT included) and still not bruise their fragile egos. I know…I’ve provided the majority in my household via my career and yet STILL had to give my emotional support. Please recognize that as a strength in women.

    2. A says:

      Does anyone else see the irony in the username “Ian the Lover”? It is clear your opinions are biased to the severest extent. If I were to go off the terrible encounters I’ve had with men who take, take, and take from me while I constantly give them my support and love, then I would be filled with exactly the same unhealthy resentment that you have. But, I don’t. I have met terrible men who are narcissistic abusers and users, who are lazy and expect me to be the emotional support/wall in the relationship, and I have met amazing men who are strong, MUTUAL supporters of life’s hardships. I really will never understand how someone can discriminate against entire genders, races, socioeconomic classes, body shapes, etc. To make such sweeping generalisations about people based on limited experiences is erroneous, narrow-minded, and negative. We attract the people who reflect aspects of ourselves. If you’re constantly encountering negative women who want only to take, then it is because you are searching for that kind of woman, for whatever reasons. It tells you, and the rest of us reading, more about YOURSELF than it does the woman you’re putting down. Wake up and have a good look in the mirror instead of pointing the finger at women… Ironically, it makes you look as bad as the woman on this terrible episode of Naked and Afraid.

    3. Anonymous says:

      Just leave Ian, just leave

  12. Nate says:

    You obvisiously dont watch the show. Several episodes show the women coming out on top, working harder, getting more food and contributing. When this happens some of the men throw fits like a child because god forbid a woman be competent and accomplish more than him. Many of these women were on XL. And if any of you men have never met a sane, independent woman who’s not a taker…well that says more about you than anything else. Sounds like you run in certain circles and only look for (or attracted to) certain types of women. You guys don’t exactly sound like a catch yourselves or deserving of a beautiful, strong, giving woman. I feel sorry for you and your miserable, archaic existence.

    1. Ben says:

      What is the average? Who is more productive partner on average? I don’t doubt there are strong, independent women, do you doubt there are strong independent men? A strong independent woman though does not need a “catch” she can handle her self, what need does she have for a man? A strong independent man likewise does not need a woman, regardless if he is deserving or not. As a mgtow we advocate men achieve self-sufficiency, both physically, mentally and emotionally, and that co-dependence on another human being, a women, is folly.

    2. Jonathan says:

      Let’s all be honest here, Honora isn’t the standard for women. She’s the extreme example of an incompetent, leech. However, some of the other women are also exceptionally talented which doesn’t represent the majority of women either.

      Lets leave our “Not All X are like that!” arguments at the door.

      Any objective watcher to Naked and Afraid XL seasons 1 and 2 (going to talk about both here to be fair) can come to the conclusion of what men and women are like in large social circles under desperate conditions.

      In Season 1: We saw Honora become a complete bitch. We saw 2 women exploit the labour of a man and treat him like trash the entire time. We saw 2 women turn against the perhaps only capable woman in the season because she was an introvert.

      The introvert would go out and scout, looking for food. In the beginning the women mostly lived on fish and what small game they could find. Later when they met the other 2 men, they consumed their stored resources and then leeched off the resources of the “alpha” male team and the ingenuity of the 2 men in the end (who came up with the idea of the raft they used to reach extraction). The majority of the time, they would sit in camp, bitch about how the alpha male team didn’t cooperate them (they gave the girls resources, but didn’t join their group) and owed them food. They also started rumors and gossiped.

      In Season 2: The women were much better here. On the subject of being eaten alive by ticks, nobody decided to sleep off ground (like the men insisted in the previous season). The men didn’t either, but this resulted in most of the women becoming sick for large periods of time. When Jake met up with the three girl team, and brought Clarence and the woman in his team with him, Clarence became the bad guy because he wasn’t working as hard as Jake did despite proving to be a capable fisherman, and smart about needing to find something other than poop water to drink. He then worked himself harder to prove himself and got heat exhaustion. Jake then proceeded to look after all the girls.

      Kim proved to be loyal to the guy she started with, but she was sick initially. She later met up with the group mentioned above. There was also a woman who came up with a hunting plan, credit to her.

      While the women proved to be helpful in this season, most of the time they only really helped in assisting the men work on stuff. They had no goals or ambitions once everyone met up than to assist.

      Jake basically was their proclaimed leader, one guy wanted to build traps, take down large pray and was there for the experience, another guy wanted to prove he could survive anywhere and put his upbringing to good use and the last guy wanted to be the breadwinner of the group.

      When the one guy who wanted the experience wanted to leave and go on his own, one woman got mad and offended. Taking it personally. In other areas, we saw the women deal with psycho-social issues in which they consoled one another. One woman got really smart towards the end and proved she was able to survive by killing a small bird with a slingshot and knowing to avoid strange fauna ( a move which ended up being extremely wise). However like in Season 1, the show was really stolen by the men who were the most successful hunters and fishers.

      To conclude this long post, we saw in both seasons something similar as the returnofkings article. While not all women are Honora, in both cases men did the majority of and best labour and the majority of women contributed best by assisting the men. If you watch both seasons (of the 40 day challenge), you will come to the conclusion that if the men weren’t there, the majority of women would have likely failed. In the reverse, if none of the women were there, it wouldn’t have had a negative impact whatsoever on the men.

      Let’s be honest here, women naturally get drawn into the emotional and interpersonal aspect of things that they can’t realistically be expected to maintain a social circle larger than a family. Sure, you need someone to keep everyone’s head in the game, but that isn’t a full time job. The men were doing it in the first season while out hunting, fishing and working. If you’re going to lounge around a camp, at least add roofs to your shelters or something.

  13. Sara says:

    Wow, what a miserable sexist you are, author of this post. I’m not scrolling back to see your name. You lump all women in a group as being incompetent takers– it’s revolting. Like another commenter said, you must select a certain type of woman. Who knows and who cares, though?
    You are equal to a a white supremacist or a nazi. Disgusting.
    I clicked on your post because I wanted to read about Honora and frankly to snark on her bad behavior, but you are not worth it. Enjoy snuggling up to your blowup doll!

    1. Hedon says:

      LMAO! Yea, you’re clearly in the wrong place lol. Another woman who can’t handle an objective argument or look at one objectively without resorting to shaming language. Typical…

      1. AC says:

        The adjectives spoke volumes and belies any objectivity. It’s the most subjectively written article and renders the author useless…as useless as he claims all women are. Granted the show’s female choice have somewhat sucked, but you have been sucked into believing all in society are the same. A bigger untruth cannot be told.

      2. Fuck you says:

        Fuck you, you sexist pig. This article is riddled with generalized nonsense. This is so strongly opinionated against women that it doesn’t consider Honora as an individual over a representation of all women. She was a terrible contestant, but not all women on the show fail. If you have actually seen the show, then you would know a good amount of men can’t make it and they leave their female partners. This is so typical of internet men that are too chicken shit to say their opinions out loud.

    2. NATAN says:

      Sara sua vadia feminazi

  14. Wigman says:

    As a man I am offended by these incredibly sexist comments. Sorry woman on behalf of all men. I searched these comments because I also agree the woman in this episode was clearly unstable, to say it nicely. Let’s keep things civilized and not use this place as a sounding board to justify a sexist world view. My wife is awesome, and contributes more than me to our family.

    Now back to Honora. I can’t believe she spent so much time in the sun. On day one she just lay in the sun. I wish we had seen more early conversations between the two of them. Did he articulate his plan, minimize daytime activity? Was there any talk about her spending so much time in the sun? She was just plain delusional and mean. She reminded me of an old ski house mate I had. I wasn’t surprised to find a comment from on old ski house mate of hers. I can’t wait to see her xl episode.

    1. barbarossaa says:

      lol look at this mangina up here

    2. Michelle says:

      Love you wigman. There is a reason you have an amazing wife and your comments on this post reveal why – you are clearly a lovely caring man. My hubby feels the same way about me and i feel blessed. I can be a cow at times but he doesnt judge and loves me for my good qualities. I feel sorry for the other men on this post and their derogatory views and comments. They don’t even realise they ate the reason they hate woman and will never attract a decent woman – no decent woman would want them – why would we? You guys are going to be unhappy or alone (probably both) for a looooong time.

    3. F>U says:

      While I agree it is generalizing, when feminists do the same thing you probably applaud them.

    4. NATAN says:


      Tu és um zé buceta mangina, precisa lamber saltos para poder ter alguma chance com mulheres kkkkkkk

  15. jpconner says:

    Really surprised the woman wasn’t smart enough to get out of the sun and stay out of the sun, huge mistake from day 1. They should have tried to walk through the first night to get to the cover of the bushes………. the hat and “covering” was a great idea. A more cave like structure under the shrub roots, filled with palm frons would have made things much better right away. The man could have done better to help her, but she seemed determined to burn up her energy and her skin………. Not very good thinking in this one………….

  16. trump2016 says:

    She’s a hardcore Bernie supporter figures.

  17. Surferchick1983 says:

    Well, I was actually researching other things about Naked and Afraid and came across this article, if that’s what you would call it. Apparently, you have been hanging out with the wrong women. Either that or you arena scorned lover. Who knows. You take the time to write this, and cite 2 episodes that are perfect examples of what you suggest. But they arenobly 2 episodes. In the episode with Kim and Gary, Kim is a housewife/mother, and Gary is a retired cop/veteran. He preaches about how his partner better pull her weight, blah blah blah, then goes home on day 4 for NO GOOD REASON! He leaves kim for the rest of the time by herself. She slays a cayman, catches a baby pig with a snare, and absolutely kills the mission. There was another female who survived on her own after the male left, but I don’t remember her name, and funny enough when you google females who survived alone on NAA, you find nothing. More importantly, it goes both ways in real life. I have seen many women take care of their BUM men who don’t want to work, clean, cook, or take care of the kids. On top of that many of them beat the shit out of their companions. The point is that you can’t take 2 episodes from NAA, and say it portryas a good example of how women act in the show, or how women act in general. Seems to me like you’re just a scorned douchebag. I thing the company you keep is probably what you deserve. Lol

  18. Surferchick1983 says:

    And after I posted the above comment tonight, a new episode came on with yet another woman finishing alone and dominating the the survival mission. Julio left after 4 days because he had an EMOTIONAL BREAKDOWN! Tawney survived 17 days by herself.

  19. Donna Teissonniere says:

    Surferchick1983, yeah, how about that??? I guess these guys skipped those episodes.

  20. UK42301 says:

    That Honora chick is straight up Looney toons, she has serious issues I don’t know if she’s bipolar or what but she needs help. On the Naked and Afraid XL show she purposely threw another person’s machete into the river as well as a couple of other survival items just for spite and the fact that they didn’t appreciate the mangoes she found that were inedible because they were vreeny

  21. Genie says:

    Wow. I wasn’t looking for the emasculated men support group. Just stumbled on it accidently.

  22. Robert says:

    crazy as a shit-house rat. I would have loved to have seen this bitch in SERE school…wha…wha…wha…wha…wha…wha…wha…wha…wha…and she went completely crazy on XL. She needs to be sent to survival with a tribe of cannibal’s…maybe she would be worth something there…

  23. sam says:

    LOL! All these butthurt manginas and cunts cannot handle a woman being portrayed badly. Great article!

  24. David Beall says:

    Yes this thread is an embarrassing hive of misogyny. Yes the episode in question the guy happened to have a more intelligent strategy. The women was a bundle of energy and her body, but not her spirit defeated her. If I have one skill set in life it is in spotting patterns. I too was fascinated by the male female dynamic in survival mode. One pattern is clear – the males tend to perform better in the first few days, but by day 21 I could not discern a pattern. Misogynist males tend to fair the worst, their inability to hunt often their downfall. Meat eaters v Vegitarians (assuming the vegetarian is willing to compromise to some degree) no real pattern. Of course what I should have done to prove my point would be two fold 1) calculate how many men v women tapped out and 2) calculate whether men or women had improved their psr by a greater percentage. But I guess that even these calculations would not be definitive. The highlight was one episode on around day 19, when a very healthy elf like vegetarion caught a frog- and although she had never killed anything in her life, she knew her partner who was barely surviving, was in dire need- so she gave him the frog to kill, while she like a nubile mermaid plunged back into the lagoon to end end sitting mournfully on a rock, while her partner with tears of gratitude, prepared his vital meal

    1. barbarossaa says:

      Do you like the picture of me in silhouette standing before a giant v-j-j? An absolutely AWESOME episode of Oprah inspired me to create that look:-) I know, I know, it’s totally fabulous, you don’t have to tell me;-)

  25. Ron Swanson says:

    Obviously the author has a deep seated hatred for women. Maybe his mommy didn’t hug him enough or his dad was a jackass that treated women like shit. Must be very lonely.

  26. Mottz says:

    “There is no real point to this article other than to highlight the fact that” THE AUTHOR iS A MISOGYNIST. You are a sorry woman hater fool, Barbarossaa. LOL

  27. 'female' says:

    This is so clearly written by a man. I’m disgusted that it came up at the top of google search results. If I wanted an ignorant account of someone’s personal distain for women. You’re gross. Watch literally any other episode of this perplexing television series and you’ll see so many men feeling emasculated by women who have more patience and less of an inflated ego. The women pull more than their weight more than half of the time. You picked one shit example. And explained it from a completely #malegaze. Yuck.

  28. Woman says:

    Scroll down a few posts to read Honora’s truth of the show.

    1. ICareSoMuch says:

      I don’t see her defending her childish behavior, most likely because even she can’t possibly think of an excuse.

  29. Kate says:

    Pewww peww Pewww and I’m just here chillin

  30. Rangdrol says:

    I was saddened, but not surprised, to hear that Honora once again lost her shit on another TV show and broke people’s tools while they were out in the survival setting. I did note that on the first show the “experts” gave her a high score for her “intelligence”. I thought that was strange as I had not seen that before, as a criteria, and noted that she really had no other training of ANY kind, for preparing her in the wilderness.

    Given her behaviour in the first show, and what amounts to her abuse of her partner, yes, emotionally berating someone can be considered abuse, I was surprised that the producers would have had her on another show, any other show. Her comments and behaviour were not only self-injurious, but they put her at risk, and could have had more damaging effects on her partner.

    This isnt about a man/woman issue, this is about people treating each other with respect, and it is clear that Honora has some serious emotional and psychological issues that threatened her own life and the lives of those around her. As such, it would not be a good idea for other producers to subject other survivalists to these tirades. Perhaps the show should have hired a psychologists because they clearly don;t have one on board.

  31. NATAN says:

    A merda do feminismo está destruindo o ocidente , EUA tomem cuidado com essa merda, e com feminazis, mulheres burras incapazes de reconhecer a realidade, a realidade que mulheres são fracas e estupidas e precisam dos Homens para viver.

  32. ugh says:

    This article is a pile of horse Shit.

  33. Miss Kenna Babi says:

    I cannot seriously believe the comments on here lol
    Gtf off here with women take take take and are the insuperior sex.. lol these comments can only be from he man woman haters 😹

    FYI, I watch the show and record it to such an extent that I was even impressed with all the women for the most part. There were some that were, like this dumb chick, that I shook my head at but the men constantly acted like they had to over compensate for their third member lol

    I think the best part though are the comments on this thread about stay at home women who are accused of contributing nothing and takin too much .. add up all the hours the mom cares for kids, home, men etc.. there is a reason daycare is so expensive.. but you cannot reason with these Neanderthals because their egos have been bruised permently and they will always live over compensating for it.

  34. Deanna says:

    Whoa- this is a TV show! Designed to entertain and highlight two PEOPLE in a challenging position. All the reactions are entirely plausible for two people put in a situation where they basically starve themselves for 3 weeks and then declare they have been victorious. This is not historically realistic nor would the human race have ever survived like this. It does, however, highlight the mental tenacity and dynamic between two modern-day people who must interact in the face of adversity without our common conveniences. I put my evaluation of the sexes in this context – an unrealistic challenge of “survival”. The human condition is the subject here, not that “all men” or “all women” are anything other than human. It is rare that any of us would do any better!
    The benefit and intrigue in this show is that it evokes such strong emotions as witnessed in these responses! It is fascinating watching the veracity of the few who do manage to respect each other and work together In the face of these impossible odds. That is where the true learning experience of this show really proves itself. From reading all these replies, I see that most of us would not fall into that category.

    1. Karyn says:

      DE-fucking-poly-ANNA, who the hell do you think you are???

      I am the only womyn allowed to interact with these intel cuck shitlord mama’s boys…

      Begone wench, back to your #metoo# (bowel) movement…

      Only a real radfem can understand these True Forced Loneliness LOSERS, um, I mean “men” going their own way while furiously masturbating into their bare hands and wishing it was my vagina.

      Begone Wench!!!

  35. gabe says:

    This episode is over three years old, but I just saw it for the first time. I ‘ve seen a lot of NAA episodes, but I was taken aback by how quickly Honora made an unkind and undeserved remark about gentleman Matt’s body fat. Only a few hours into the challenge and without any provocation. And this proves to be a consistent behavior pattern(she attacks and he demonstrates very good manners, better than Honora deserves) until she taps out…surprise!!!
    I won’t use the c word, which seems to horrify some folks(although it’s apparently ok to call a man a dick), but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. Unfortunately, Honora behaved like a duck.

  36. Noone says:

    This article is disgusting. It failed to mention all the badass women that completed the challenge after the man left within a week… alone! Many men have done it, too. But my point is that the writer here has some sort of grudge against a woman in his life so the opinions are biased and one sided, while cherry picking the show highlights to prove those opinions and persuade its readers into agreeing. Ignorance is bliss. Gross.

  37. Jo says:

    This is written by an independent veteran female – slightly shamed by the way Honora represented women. I want to point out that there are just as many, if not more males who made less than stellar showings for their gender.

    The show is edited to tell a story so we never really know all the factors that went into their behaviors. That being said, much of Honora’s behavior was inexcusable regardless of circumstances. She was an entitled and self centered millennial. This isn’t necessarily determined by gender but life experience and there are just as many males with such abhorrent selfishness. How many men in the show have displayed an inability to provide for themselves and then getting their panties in a bunch towards the women outperforming them?

    As an aside, I’m surprised more people haven’t mentioned anything about Matt feeding Honora while Honora didn’t bother to share a bit of her coconut? She may not be much of a wilderness survivalist but her form of survival IS real. There’s a theory that 80% if the population that does 20% of the work while 20% does 80% of the work. She’s part of the population (both male and female) that lives off of the safety and productivity provided by those who give more than they take.

  38. Claire says:

    Wow. Toxic masculinity at it’s finest.

  39. James says:

    This incel garbage is useless. You neglect all the shows where the man is crying for days about a stubbed toe or sunburn while the woman has to find water, food, shelter etc

  40. Charles says:

    All these butthurt women pretending to be men commenting in here… mwahahahaha lmao

  41. Melissa Ecie says:

    Honora you are a stupid bitch!! You got some nerve yelling at Matt when your stupid ass brought a magnifying glass to a survival situation…you are one dumb bitch!! No fire starter or bug net or a kukaru…a magnifying glass!!! Go home you dumb cunt! I’m sure you stink too!!

  42. Daren says:

    I laughed at every part of this article. Honora was clearly an idiot. It was a wonderfully written article, until the “lesson learned” is that women are useless. Disappointing. Why can’t we just get a laugh in at stupid people? Stupid people come in every shape and size, why take it there? Just sucks.

  43. Kat5566 says:

    Honora Bowen is a joke. Pure and simple. She’s a liar, and a manipulator. She was so upset about the way she was portrayed on her 21 day challenge with Matt, she blamed Discovery, producers, editing, you name it. She blamed everybody else except for herself for her behavior. She even went as far as to accuse one of the producers of molesting her. LOL. She was so upset… That she went back to do Naked and Afraid XL where once again, she makes a complete and total fool of herself as she shows her true personality, how did she do that? She sabotaged her team-mates by throwing their much needed tools into the river. And then afterwards whined on social media that it wasn’t her fault. It was the editing. The producers made her do it. This crazy bitch went as far as to take a polygraph test to try and prove to viewers she was telling the truth. LMAO. Hey honora- — have you ever heard that old expression… “Methinks thou protest too much”?

  44. This article is a joke says:

    What a sexist article. You have such generalized view on 50% of the population. This is why there are so many cultural issues, because people like you cant be happy. Life is hard enough with everyday obstacles women face let alone the oppression loving ideas of internet men like you. I wish you really understood what it is like, but often times, men are so caught up in the appeal but repression to express their emotions like women do that they forget they are the ones holding themselves back. By this I mean that angry men, like this author, are too angry to love other people and see other people’s lives with clarity. It is simply too hard for them. I have seen this so many times. You have your thoughts on the world and how “advantaged” other people are, so much so to the point that you deny reality.

    I would love for you to acknowledge the wage gap, because it does exist. Meninists often will dispute it left and right because they believe it is absolute feminist radicalization nonsense. It exists due to many reasons. I encourage you to look into it with an open mind.

    Another thing I would love for you to understand is how dangerous it is being a woman. Men often use the argument that women are so lucky in this American society because we have doors opened for us, and get into clubs for free, and …. I honestly cant even imagine another positive in being a woman over a man in this woman hating world. My point from this is for you to consider how shitty it is. The majority of women I have met have been sexually assaulted or fully raped in their life time. I am sure a man like you won’t understand… the life changing effect… that has on people. You dont care, and you never will. It is in the ideas you had taught to you likely by your own father. Workplace relationships are different according to gender. Women get paid less, start with less, and advance less. Women are less likely to gain employment if they barter their wage, yet a common argument men use is that women are too afraid to ask for more. These are statistically proven in psychology.

    It is such a hypocritical existence you internet sexist men have. Women want to be safe, not assaulted, and be paid equally, but men like you say that the minimal “advantages” that you focus on are worth a lifetime and generation’s time world of abuse.

    Fuck you.

    Honestly, fuck you. You will never understand and you will always have your hatred fueled ideas. I hope to god your sons grow up better men than you.

    1. Hharveyson says:

      To the previous commenter:

      No, fuck you. Fuck your belief in the wage gap myth. Fuck your whole 1 out of 5 rape stat. Fuck your possible support of Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. I hope to God that you don’t bear any children that resemble your personality at all.

  45. Hharveyson says:

    To the previous commenter:

    No, fuck you.

    And to the owner of this website who deleted my previous comment through moderation, fuck you as well.

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  48. SnoozyQ says:

    Tardy to the party, but…HOLY SHIT! Honora is one of those women who scar men to the point they become skin suit making, high powered rifle totin’ sittin’ in a high rise hotel window shootin’, women haters! Please keep that women away from any future TV shows.
    For someone described as, “Highly Intelligent” she sure behaved like a dumbass. It was painfully obvious she was clueless about primitive survival and had absolutely no business being in that situation. Matt had the superior survival strategy. But then again anyone with even half a brain would know to stay the hell out of the baking sun! Last I checked common sense is usually standard equipment for both sexes. I guess Honora is the exception to that.

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