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  1. The Red Baron says:

    Fellas – this is the mentality MGTOW face, I just don’t get this line of thinking – I have very high testosterone levels btw for concern trolls who respond to this. Comment from @Softek from the Rational Male comments section when I told him there is no such thing as a true ‘incel’ (I hate singling him out – as he may not be the only one – I though below was just a Blue Pill mindset):
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    Softek
    May 7th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
    @ Red Baron
    I disagree about there being no such thing as ‘incel,’ although I still can’t help but put the word in quotation marks most of the time for some reason.
    Two out of the three girls I’ve hooked up with have been over 300 pounds.
    Was I attracted to them? No. But I did it anyway. And I would hook up with unattractive girls if I knew there weren’t going to be any issues, e.g. STD’s, me having to deal with avoiding them if they pressed for a relationship —
    — I’ve avoided girls my whole life out of anxiety, whether they’re ugly or attractive. Even the ugly ones I easily could’ve fucked as I’ve been desperate for so long, but it’s always been the anxiety surrounding what happens after that kept me from doing it.
    I had multiple shots with very attractive girls, but my anxiety ruined it. I was afraid. Of what? STD’s, getting a girl pregnant, having to deal with her emotions/trying to contact me, etc.
    And with two out of the three hookups I had, I had full blown panic attacks. I couldn’t get it up. I managed to with the second hookup after a few hours, but the first one, I blew it. Too anxious. And when I say panic attack I mean panic — limbs numb and tingling, short of breath, sense of impending doom, lightheaded and dizzy.
    There’s a quote from Monsters and Magical Sticks: There’s No Such Thing as Hypnosis? by Steven Heller. It basically sums up my take on incel as well as any other issue.
    I’m still trying to figure this out. I’ve mentioned before that I was molested by a doctor when I was a kid, although I never told anyone about it. The fact that I can’t remember the last time I went to a physical and have avoided doctors my entire life since that day, and my near complete sexual withdrawal from the world, on top of the fact that sexual encounters have given me panic attacks consistently, makes me wonder.
    But ANYWAY, more important than all that, here’s the quote, which is one of my all-time favorites, and summarizes what I’m trying to say more eloquently than I can:
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    It seems ridiculous that somebody becomes a psychiatrist or a psychologist with years and years of schooling, and spends time telling a patient something obvious such as, “Of course you can be successful. There are opportunities in this world.”
    The real problem is how to interrupt the pattern of behavior that continues to reinforce the belief system, and how to help the patient examine their own belief system, to help them acknowledge other choices that are available in the world.
    The combination of internal belief systems (brought about by traumas, suggestions, or what have you), and the repetition of patterns of behavior that reinforce belief systems, simply results in an individual who is stuck and without choice. You must look not at what the world is doing to them, but rather what they are doing within the world based on what belief system and what patterns.

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