On taxation and Parenthood

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  1. Darth Sin says:

    Gotta love the government subsidizing people’s bad and unplanned decisions.

  2. Peter Gibbons says:

    If the state is an inescapable product of the human condition isn’t gynocentrism as well? Since females are the limiting factor in human reproduction, their demands will always take precedence ultimately. Even as MGTOW, we live our lives on our own terms but we eventually die. After that, our legacy will be either continued by or ignored by others who have been born from a gynocentric system.

  3. JD Muspelheim says:

    For what it’s worth, if MGTOW ever wanted to go big, they would organize and protest this very issue. Take a page from the SJW Handbook.

  4. Anon says:

    Meant as a sincere criticism- it might be a good idea to crack a book on economics before commenting on economics, not to mention how tax policy and economics intersect.

    Your argument is essentially the same as those of “Not in My Name”, who protested that their tax dollars were being used for Middle East wars, which is essentially the same as saying whatever their meager contributions to the pot, they should be able to control the entire pot. It would be nice if everyone could direct what their taxes were used for, but you aren’t advocating for that. You are essential no different than feminist complaining that research in to heart disease doesn’t specify women explicitly. It’s bunk and whiny. And, by the way, this has fuckall to do with capitalism.

    Nor was I aware that MGTOW is explicitly right libertarian in its orthodoxy. So I can’t support something like basic income as distinct from any views I have about gynocentrism? I can’t advocate for mutualism without being pestered about how men will bear the brunt of the costs, even though it should put men and women on an equivalent standing? Do tell.

    Taxation policy is its own can of worms, and nearly every person under the sun can complain that their taxes aren’t being used efficiently or towards things they support. Such is the nature of any collective effort. You could discuss more effective tax policies, from flat taxes to land value taxes, but that has nothing to do with MGTOW.

    And we could even further discuss how majority rule elections tend towards oligarchy, and perhaps better, fairer methods of governance, Rawls’s veil of ignorance vs. Heinlein’s public service, but again, that has nothing to do with MGTOW.

    1. MarkM says:


      1)He didn’t say that this tax policy was related to mgtow. It’s just an example of how gynocentric society is.

      2)”So I can’t support something like basic income as distinct from any views I have about gynocentrism?”

      The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

      Who is saying that you can’t have these views? Exactly no one.

      1. Anon says:

        Um, no.

        Previous to women being a more conspicuous part of the military, weren’t military pensions a sign of how androcentric society was since men were receiving the lion’s share of the benefits off the backs of tax payers? If you are complaining about single males forced to subsidize the children of others, aren’t some of those children male? You sure you want to make the claim of gynocentrism?

        He makes an argument about how shrinking the government would be ideal in allowing single males to keep more of their funds (and to be fair, how that is not workable within the context social ecology). That is diametrically opposed to the idea of expanding government to include even single males, in fact, everybody, as being worthy of government support.

        But is it gynocentric?

        Further, implicating investment prior to revenue generation (as opposed to working for a share of the profits or any of the ten thousand other economic models) as specifically a means to transfer wealth from men to women is a non sequitur. He’s real beef is with how institutions are organized as majority rule when you are in the minority.

        And if birth rates continue to decline below replacement, you don’t think there won’t be several single women complaining about how they have to subsidize breeders?

        And, not to put too fine a point on it, it has nothing to do with MGTOW.

        1. MarkM says:

          1)So what is the percentage of US men who were military servicemen? qualified for these increased pensions? Much less than the entire percentage of women who are eligible for benefits.

          2)Where does he say he wants to increase the size of government? Why do you take this one post out of context of all the rest of his videos?

          3)”He’s real beef is with how institutions are organized as majority rule when you are in the minority.”

          Well yes, and that does not contradict any of his other mgtow arguments. Biologically men want women. So men acquiesce to female demands and sacrifice themselves in the hope of gaining access to more women and power. This is deep rooted in biology and male evolutionary psychology , it causes male behavior. This is gynocentrism (as applied to men) i.e. men acting in women’s interests in the hope of gaining a mating advantage, often to the detriment of other men.

          4)Birth rates will be a non issue. Soon women will just choose the best sperm at a sperm bank. Also, unless a woman is hideously ugly she can find some schlub to have a family with. A lot of “mgtow” are just butthurt rejected men who have this silly fantasy that women will be calling them back when they are older, those men are delusional in this regard. Women don’t want to breed with losers.

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